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Comments on: Dave Renham: A synopsis of 6f and 7f AW Draw/Pace https://rpapi.ggzssd.co.uk/2020/03/18/dave-renham-a-synopsis-of-6f-and-7f-aw-draw-pace/ Just another geegeez site Tue, 24 Mar 2020 10:00:12 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.15 By: Matt Bisogno https://rpapi.ggzssd.co.uk/2020/03/18/dave-renham-a-synopsis-of-6f-and-7f-aw-draw-pace/#comment-448 Tue, 24 Mar 2020 10:00:12 +0000 https://www.geegeez.co.uk/?p=2802657#comment-448 In reply to davevart.

No problem, Dave – happens to us all!

Matt

]]> By: davevart https://rpapi.ggzssd.co.uk/2020/03/18/dave-renham-a-synopsis-of-6f-and-7f-aw-draw-pace/#comment-447 Mon, 23 Mar 2020 16:10:41 +0000 https://www.geegeez.co.uk/?p=2802657#comment-447 Fair comment….as soon as I posted my comment I realised I’d missed the point of the article!

]]> By: Matt Bisogno https://rpapi.ggzssd.co.uk/2020/03/18/dave-renham-a-synopsis-of-6f-and-7f-aw-draw-pace/#comment-446 Fri, 20 Mar 2020 08:27:28 +0000 https://www.geegeez.co.uk/?p=2802657#comment-446 In reply to davevart.

Hi Dave

You can check that on Query Tool. But, more materially, I think Dave R is steering us towards outside drawn front runners, which continue to make a profit at many turning tracks.

Moreover, he is referring to a combination of draw AND run style. The latter element is not fully factored in to most punters’ considerations. For example, backing horses which led from stalls 1 and 2 at Chester in 8+ runner 5f handicaps since 2009 would have won you 10 of 28 bets for a profit of +37.32.

This research goes way beyond ‘back the inside draw’, Dave. Might be worth re-reading with that in mind.

Best,
Matt

]]> By: davevart https://rpapi.ggzssd.co.uk/2020/03/18/dave-renham-a-synopsis-of-6f-and-7f-aw-draw-pace/#comment-445 Fri, 20 Mar 2020 08:14:44 +0000 https://www.geegeez.co.uk/?p=2802657#comment-445 interesting article but a factor not considered (and one I think is more significant in trying to turn a profit) is the effect the draw has on price…..all well and good backing 1 & 2 at chester over 5f but has the ‘draw effect’ made them shorter than they should be ie.non value bets. A difficult one to analyze I accept but ……

]]> By: therams1962 https://rpapi.ggzssd.co.uk/2020/03/18/dave-renham-a-synopsis-of-6f-and-7f-aw-draw-pace/#comment-444 Wed, 18 Mar 2020 14:53:52 +0000 https://www.geegeez.co.uk/?p=2802657#comment-444 I for one will not be ignoring a front runner i fancy ever again now .Great insight into the draw and leaders on the AW.

]]> By: Blueeyes https://rpapi.ggzssd.co.uk/2020/03/18/dave-renham-a-synopsis-of-6f-and-7f-aw-draw-pace/#comment-443 Wed, 18 Mar 2020 12:01:37 +0000 https://www.geegeez.co.uk/?p=2802657#comment-443 Many thanks for the interesting and instructive article.
I have avoided backing high drawn horses for many years and will now have to reconsider in the future.
Clearly potential front runners drawn high should not automatically be excluded.
I will save this article. A brilliant piece of work.
Thanks again.

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