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Comments on: Exotic Betting: Multi-Race Bets (Part 1) https://rpapi.ggzssd.co.uk/2020/04/06/exotic-betting-multi-race-bets-part-1/ Just another geegeez site Fri, 10 Apr 2020 20:48:28 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.15 By: Matt Bisogno https://rpapi.ggzssd.co.uk/2020/04/06/exotic-betting-multi-race-bets-part-1/#comment-569 Fri, 10 Apr 2020 20:48:28 +0000 https://www.geegeez.co.uk/?p=2802787#comment-569 In reply to Rory Alkin.

Hi Rory, I’m on there as mattbisogno, I think. The link is:

https://www.colossusbets.com/syndicates/profile/325

If you follow geegeez on twitter, I always post syndicates on there, too.

Matt

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By: Rory Alkin https://rpapi.ggzssd.co.uk/2020/04/06/exotic-betting-multi-race-bets-part-1/#comment-568 Fri, 10 Apr 2020 18:10:52 +0000 https://www.geegeez.co.uk/?p=2802787#comment-568 Hi Matt, very interesting way of looking at perming and quite logical. On the Colossus pool bets what is your syndicate called?

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By: David B https://rpapi.ggzssd.co.uk/2020/04/06/exotic-betting-multi-race-bets-part-1/#comment-567 Fri, 10 Apr 2020 16:49:04 +0000 https://www.geegeez.co.uk/?p=2802787#comment-567 Great read
Thank you Matt

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By: David Smith https://rpapi.ggzssd.co.uk/2020/04/06/exotic-betting-multi-race-bets-part-1/#comment-566 Tue, 07 Apr 2020 14:06:48 +0000 https://www.geegeez.co.uk/?p=2802787#comment-566 Hi Matt, many years ago I had a five timer up at 456/1 for a £10 stake. Since then never got remotely close. Which I think the bet would be classified as pure luck. That’s one end of the Multi-Bet market. Most Saturdays on ITV you can watch the number of potential winning tickets dwindle to single figures from a starting point of tens if not hundreds of thousands of tickets,and those single ticket holders invariably lose. So a systematic approach by categorising horses and combining them in the selected races is a welcome light shined on a bet that offers much but generally returns little or nothing. Like all things Racing being selective in when to play or not is key and I look forward with much interest to part 2. Great article. Thanks

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By: Matt Bisogno https://rpapi.ggzssd.co.uk/2020/04/06/exotic-betting-multi-race-bets-part-1/#comment-565 Tue, 07 Apr 2020 12:32:54 +0000 https://www.geegeez.co.uk/?p=2802787#comment-565 In reply to Martin Colwell.

Yes, that’s a very fair point, Martin, about bankers being slightly less obvious. From an insurance perspective, however, they don’t offer the ‘cheap lay’ opportunity of a shortie. Nevertheless, I think you’re right about trying to bank where less others have banked.

Matt

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By: simon boardman https://rpapi.ggzssd.co.uk/2020/04/06/exotic-betting-multi-race-bets-part-1/#comment-564 Tue, 07 Apr 2020 12:19:44 +0000 https://www.geegeez.co.uk/?p=2802787#comment-564 First of all Matt , thanks for your advice which is in fact an excellent first point of call when looking for a Placepot play i have bookmarked your advice ! . a great example was the Cheltenham lay of Paisley Park whose loss did return a nice Dividend.
Secondly , dont give up on your Placepot Project !!!! i for one would love to purchase a copy !!!
looking forward to Part 2.

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By: Martin Colwell https://rpapi.ggzssd.co.uk/2020/04/06/exotic-betting-multi-race-bets-part-1/#comment-563 Tue, 07 Apr 2020 12:19:01 +0000 https://www.geegeez.co.uk/?p=2802787#comment-563 I do like these type of bets at the big festivals when there is more value about and many more casual punters getting involved. I find that the dividends paid can get big.
Re the ‘Banker’ I would avoid short priced favourites and instead go for those horses with a good chance to hit the frame. As an example i thought that Easysland and Santini were an example of these at the festival. There would have been carnage with Defi and Paisley Park being out of the frame.

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By: sondrio2 https://rpapi.ggzssd.co.uk/2020/04/06/exotic-betting-multi-race-bets-part-1/#comment-562 Tue, 07 Apr 2020 11:32:35 +0000 https://www.geegeez.co.uk/?p=2802787#comment-562 Not really my thing, but very interesting indeed, may have to take a look at some point but first i need to read the avove a dozen times or so to get it into my head.Thanks Matt.

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By: hillsy945 https://rpapi.ggzssd.co.uk/2020/04/06/exotic-betting-multi-race-bets-part-1/#comment-561 Tue, 07 Apr 2020 11:06:26 +0000 https://www.geegeez.co.uk/?p=2802787#comment-561 Superb content this.

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By: Matt Bisogno https://rpapi.ggzssd.co.uk/2020/04/06/exotic-betting-multi-race-bets-part-1/#comment-560 Tue, 07 Apr 2020 10:52:38 +0000 https://www.geegeez.co.uk/?p=2802787#comment-560 In reply to simon boardman.

Hi Simon

Thanks for your comment. I do have the rights to republish Mal Boyle’s placepot book, but need to find a smart way to convert it from print to digital. Regarding me and Dave teaming up to write a book, that’s not impossible: more likely is that I will write one. I’ve started that project in this down time; whether I finish it is a very different question indeed!

On the main question about little and often or occasional big hits, my answer – which is not necessarily the correct answer – is ‘neither and both’. Obviously that needs qualification so here goes: the key is not the frequency or the size of the pool, but rather the perceived edge. As I will say in Part 2, in my view you need to feel you have a counter-market view in at least two races (i.e. you think the top of the market is beatable) to justify a play.

Naturally you’ll not always be right about which races but if you’re playing on a day when you think all races will go to the favourites, there’s no point playing. If you’re right, the dividend will be small, if you’re wrong you’ll have lost your money. If you feel it will be favourite heavy but bet to include longer priced horses, you’re self-defeating. There’s always another day to bet tomorrow (unless we’re in lockdown, obvs!)

Hope that offers some food for thought.
Matt

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