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Comments on: Dave Renham: Chester Draw & Pace Part 1 https://rpapi.ggzssd.co.uk/2020/04/20/dave-renham-chester-draw-pace-part-1/ Just another geegeez site Wed, 22 Apr 2020 07:58:24 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.15 By: Andrew Dykes https://rpapi.ggzssd.co.uk/2020/04/20/dave-renham-chester-draw-pace-part-1/#comment-683 Wed, 22 Apr 2020 07:58:24 +0000 https://www.geegeez.co.uk/?p=2803341#comment-683 Chester is a fantastic track and you must go. If you are lucky enough to be an owner it’s even better as you are well looked after.
On the draw front it will be interesting to see if the Tote being involved for 2020 we will see less rail movements.

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By: Matt Bisogno https://rpapi.ggzssd.co.uk/2020/04/20/dave-renham-chester-draw-pace-part-1/#comment-682 Tue, 21 Apr 2020 20:43:33 +0000 https://www.geegeez.co.uk/?p=2803341#comment-682 In reply to Aidy.

Hi Aidy

This link should give you all you need:

https://www.geegeez.co.uk/?s=Dave+Renham

Matt

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By: Rotund legend https://rpapi.ggzssd.co.uk/2020/04/20/dave-renham-chester-draw-pace-part-1/#comment-681 Tue, 21 Apr 2020 12:06:30 +0000 https://www.geegeez.co.uk/?p=2803341#comment-681 For those wanting to manage a horse’s handicap mark, a high draw at Chester would be a bonus. Not much worry of the stewards being interested in a losing run. How are they then treated by the handicapper? How do horses run in their next run away from Chester after being drawn in the top third there previously in a qualifying race? Those figures may be interesting?
From what I have seen from watching Chester on TV the racing is a spectacle and the crowd are usually well turned out. One for the list to visit.

Keep up the good work. Martin

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By: Aidy https://rpapi.ggzssd.co.uk/2020/04/20/dave-renham-chester-draw-pace-part-1/#comment-680 Tue, 21 Apr 2020 11:33:51 +0000 https://www.geegeez.co.uk/?p=2803341#comment-680 Hi just wondering if there’s a place to get all Dave Renham’s work in course/draw/pace of what he’s done so far, cheers

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By: Matt Bisogno https://rpapi.ggzssd.co.uk/2020/04/20/dave-renham-chester-draw-pace-part-1/#comment-679 Mon, 20 Apr 2020 17:53:16 +0000 https://www.geegeez.co.uk/?p=2803341#comment-679 In reply to paul.

Hi Paul

Regarding pace score in QT, it relates to “today’s run”, i.e. a score of 4 means the horse led in the race in question. Obviously, and as you say, we can’t know that in advance; but it tells us which track/trip combinations suit early pace horses.

We will at some point have last two runs in QT as well, so you’ll be able to look for, for example, horses which led in their last two races.

Hope that helps,
Matt

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By: paul https://rpapi.ggzssd.co.uk/2020/04/20/dave-renham-chester-draw-pace-part-1/#comment-678 Mon, 20 Apr 2020 15:32:38 +0000 https://www.geegeez.co.uk/?p=2803341#comment-678 Hi Dave/Matt

As always, great article and very informative – Many Thanks.

Just wondered if either you or Matt could help me with the following, as it is pace related.

In query tool under the ‘runner’ tab what does the pace score tab (0 – 4) identify. That is to say, is it last run style or an average of the 4 last runs. I understand that as with the odds tab we can’t predict the future,and I tend to use a reminder in the title of the query itself, but I’d like to be able to identify those horses that like to lead (last known pace scores of 3444, for example) on tracks that are suited to front running types. Am I not using query tool to its full potential or is this functionality something for the future.

Another week of non racing action, but when this pandemic is over Geegeez will continue to innovate, lead from the front (no pun intended! ) and prosper with the continued support of all loyal subscribers – Keep the articles coming they are all very much appreciated.

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By: Matt Bisogno https://rpapi.ggzssd.co.uk/2020/04/20/dave-renham-chester-draw-pace-part-1/#comment-677 Mon, 20 Apr 2020 14:29:38 +0000 https://www.geegeez.co.uk/?p=2803341#comment-677 In reply to Ecker.

Hi Ecker

Yes, that info is available but you have to hunt around for it. Here’s from the 31/8/19 meeting on the BHA website:
https://www.britishhorseracing.com/racing/results/fixture-results/#!/2019/11578

Rails: The rail has been moved out by between 3 and 9 yards from the very inside.

1:35pm: Race distance is now +24y to 7f 25y
2:10pm: Race distance is now +24y to 7f 151y
2:45pm: Race distance is now +48y to 1m 6f 135y
3:20pm: Race distance is now +24y to 6f 41y
3:55pm: Race distance is now +22y to 5f 132y
4:30pm: Race distance is now +20y to 5f 35y
5:05pm: Race distance is now +48y to 2m 24y

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By: Ecker https://rpapi.ggzssd.co.uk/2020/04/20/dave-renham-chester-draw-pace-part-1/#comment-676 Mon, 20 Apr 2020 13:50:52 +0000 https://www.geegeez.co.uk/?p=2803341#comment-676 Great article…. Thanks. Chester is my local track and I used to blindly back stalls 1,2 and 3 in RFCs, which proved to be quite profitable. But since they have been moving the rail the results aren’t quite the same as held up horses always have enough room in the last furlong to get past the leaders. Do they announce if the rail is to be moved before racing?

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By: Matt Bisogno https://rpapi.ggzssd.co.uk/2020/04/20/dave-renham-chester-draw-pace-part-1/#comment-675 Mon, 20 Apr 2020 12:05:51 +0000 https://www.geegeez.co.uk/?p=2803341#comment-675 In reply to Bubbles180.

Very good point, Bubbles, both SdS and Norton are extremely fine exponents of the ‘jump and run’ approach.

Matt

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By: Bubbles180 https://rpapi.ggzssd.co.uk/2020/04/20/dave-renham-chester-draw-pace-part-1/#comment-674 Mon, 20 Apr 2020 10:44:28 +0000 https://www.geegeez.co.uk/?p=2803341#comment-674 Great read yet again dave, but just 1 point to also consider when using pace/draw, in the last 2 years i have noticed that all jockeys drawn 1 to 4 will try to lead even if their horse has not front run before, so when looking at run styles on geegeez you have to figure in to your decision if the horse or horses drawn 1 to 4 will attempt to lead even if their run style is for example 1211, one way to look at this could be the jockey who has course form and knows his mount has to break well to stand any chance, look at SDS & frannie norton as examples last year SDS had several mounts with run styles of just 1 & 2’s yet he made sure they flew out of the stalls and either lead or had a very prominent position and on many of these he won, just something that you may need to look at as well

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